54 comments on “State of the (Miss) Universe: How is Iris Mittenaere doing so far?

  1. Dear Norman: As you well know, the agenda and activities by any reigning Miss Universe is set by the Miss Universe Organization – so to somehow imply that Iris’ reign lacks “impact” is somewhat misleading. Social media activity or posting selfies online does not necessarily equate “impact” unless these activities have some meaningful or substantive influence.

    Obviously, Pia’s reign started off with a massive publicity bang due to her controversial crowning moment. But what Pia did during her reign was pretty much determined by the MUO. Pia, as an employee of the MUO, would not have been able to set her own independent agenda outside of MUO’s purview. The same rule applies to Iris.

    Perhaps Pia’s reign seemed to have more impact from Filipino fans’ point of view because of our country’s heightened interest in beauty pageants. Less so in France. But that does not mean Iris is doing less. Iris may not be as active in social media but it does not mean she is doing less work or that her reign is somehow less meaningful.

    In fact, Iris winning the Miss Universe title for France – a victory that comes 64 long years after her country won its first Miss Universe crown in 1953 – is in itself Iris’ greatest impact on the annals of beauty pageantry. Excluding Oxana Fedorova of Russia who was dethroned in 2002, Iris would in fact be the first European to actually win and hold onto the Miss Universe title for Europe since Norway won the title back in 1990. The beauty pageant industry in Europe which has progressively diminished over the years might actually experience a revival thanks to Iris’ victory. That would be meaningful impact in the world of pageantry.

    But sometimes real substantive impact may manifest itself over many years long after a beauty queen’s reign has passed. Gemma Cruz is a shining example. She leveraged her status as a former Miss International over decades of philanthropic work which are too numerous to name here. Another example is Miss World 2000 Priyanka Chopra of India who, 15 years later after she won the title, eventually became a renowned international TV actress and philanthropist. Or former Miss Israel Gal Gadot, who may not have won the Miss Universe title for her country back in 2004, but more than a decade later would become an international success as Wonder Woman and has since become a role model and a feminist symbol for young girls and women the world over. And there certainly are many more examples of former beauty queens who by the expression of their lives have had meaningful impact in the world far too many to list here, way before the dawn of Facebook or Instagram.

    What I’m saying is this: a beauty queen’s “impact” cannot be summarily judged or quantified by the mere months of her reign, but rather what she achieves, what she becomes, and what she contributes and gives back to the world over her lifetime.

    So Norman, when you compare, quantify or judge a beauty queen’s “impact” (or “the lack of it” as you so dismissively put it) – please do not be so quick to judge. Iris still has many more months to her reign — and the rest of her life ahead of her.

    • While I agree with Melanie’s assertion that a beauty queen’s impact cannot be judged by the mere months of her reign, but rather by what she achieves and contributes to the world over her lifetime, I think Norman is referring to the beauty queen’s contribution to building the Miss Universe brand during her reign. After her reign, a beauty queen’s stature is hailed because of how she builds her personal brand via further educational, professional and humanitarian achievements. While the MU crown helps open doors towards more accomplishments, she is basically on her own after she relinquishes her crown.

      But during her reign, we cannot assess a beauty queen’s impact based on social media traffic alone. Especially at this time when her predecessor is our own, and she comes from a country that is both pageant and internet freaks. That would be too unfair.

      An impact, or effectiveness, is always assessed relative to a goal. What was Iris’ stated goals to accomplish during her reign? What was Pia’s? Only then can we determine their respective value addition to the MU brand.

  2. Does it really matter if Iris lacks exposure or activities during her reign? Well it does because she is supposed to be an ambassador for the pageant and it’s causes. I am sure that she has obligations that the organization has already been assigned for her that we may not even know about. One thing that is alarming to me is the comparison that Norman had done between the two beauty queens, it’s unfair to do so due to bias opinion. Iris is different from Pia and yes, Pia probably did more of TV guestings in the US due to her misfortune crowning moment, but it does not mean Iris has not done anything significant. She has few more months to complete her reign and has more time to do more assignments!!!

    • Ver , pls let Norman indulge himself in some thoughts, unfair and inaccurate as they may sound to some. And let us Pia’s fans savor them.
      This is not hard news. This is an entertainment blog catered mostly to Filipino pageant fans.

      • Fabian — True, Norman definitely has every right to express his opinions. This is his blog after all. But Norman himself has also given us, his readers, the opportunity to express ourselves, whether we agree with his analysis or not. If everyone were to just agree with everything Norman says, this would certainly be a boring blog, wouldn’t you agree?

  3. off topic tito norman. about sa mwp. Hinde na ba kasale sa semifinals selection ng mwp ang bwap and multimedia? worried kase for laura and gabriella. sa 1st 3 challenge wala sila pareho. if top 15 lang kukunin nila. doon palang sa 1st 3 challenge na nakapasok eh makukuna mo na ung top 15. kahit hinde pa natin alam ang score eh mismo kung sino ung nasa top list pasok na talaga sila sa semis dahil mas mataas pa din score nila sa mga hinde naka place sa FT. last challenge is top model. i think kahit makapasok si laura at gab sa top model malabo yata na makapasok sila sa top 15 since sa ist 3 challenge pa lang halos buo na ang top 15 yan ay kung top 15 lang talaga kukunin nila. pero kung manalo sya sa top model sure in na sya sa semis right? kahit 1 point lang sya at wala sya sa 3 challenge. wala kase ako nababasa about sa bwap at multimedia as criteria for semis selection for mwp and since wala pa silang dalawa sa mga top list ng challenge so medyo may kaba.hopefully top 20 kunin and more other ways para makapasok sila sa semis at makalaban sa finals.

    • Talent and sports? I dont think they will count in the end . The fast track winners may qualify as semi-finalists but no further .. unless they have beauty of face and body personality and comm skills … which ultimately decide who wins the pageant.. not sports or talent.

    • Meron pa nman yung FT ng walang lasa jed hijihi charette lang.
      We’re in the Philippines jed kaya don’t worry dahil pasok c laura sa semifinals.
      Diko lng alam sa international competition dahil kulang nga sa templa c ateng hihihi.

  4. Iris is doing fine. Is her splash making as prominent an impact as Pia’s? No. That’s because Iris’ fan base didn’t care much about MU to begin with. And in 8 months, did you think Iris could convince French fans to care about MU as much as they did Louis Vuitton, Chanel or Dior? Would social media have made a difference? 😂

    The answer is obvious and doesn’t need to be stated. Norman should retract his poorly informed, poorly written post. 👎🏽👎🏽👎🏽

    • It does not make sense.
      Iris’ fans are her fans because she is Ms.France and Miss Universe . Are there any other reasons why they should be ‘fans’ of hers?

      • Hmmm maybe because she is smart? A dental student? Some of the same reasons Pia had fans even before she was a beauty queen?

        Come on, that wasn’t a hard one. 😂

      • who the hell gets a fan for being a dental student? Iris got the public attention when she became miss universe.
        Please check your logic .
        You sound like you contradict Norman but your explanation actually supports him.

      • She was a model and pageant contestant for at least two years before she won Miss Universe and already established a fan base before coming to Manila. Is she famous because she is a dental student? No. But you clearly seem to be missing the point that intellect and substance counts, so arguing that point with someone as brusque as you is a waste of time. The point is that any European fans that Iris may have acquired since winning MU does not translate to support for the organization more broadly, especially in a region where couture, fashion modeling and even Miss World have had decades of impact and command more respect.

        MU is dealing with a legacy issue in Europe that will take years to address. Whatever comparative bias people hold against Iris lacks empathy and an understanding of how global brand marketing actually works.

        I’m done engaging with you, but I’d encourage you to check your attitude before responding to other readers on the site.

      • Victoriano , do you even read what u post here?
        What could be more cruel than saying Norman had a poorly written poorly informed post?
        Ok, let’s deflect the issue away from Iris and blame it all on the MUO for their lack of its popularity among European countries. As you said, Iris ‘fans are not MUO’s fans . So where are Iris’s fans ?
        That’s exactly what Norman is trying to say. Not that he claims accuracy on anything ( read Norman’s post again). He simply feels that Iris’s reign is drawing to a close and yet lacking the weight that her predecessor put on it .

      • Fabie may i butt in please! Could you please remind me of anything that Pia did during her reign that no other title holders have done before which makes her the best Miss Universe ever as all of her fans here are claiming?
        Tell me even a thing and I concur. Maybe this is just one of those instances of Filipinos’ superiority complex but when mixed with other nationalities, they tend to bow down saying “yes sir” to anyone and anything.

  5. I don’t follow Iris at IG but I do follow MU.

    Fans don’t want to make comparison but it is the only way to gauge the effectivity of a titlist. As compared to Kylie and Kat who are really busy with their advocacies, Iris is somehow matamlay.

    Although, meron din naman such as smile train, modelling with jp gaultier, coronation of Miss Guyana and others and now in Mexico.

    Nasa organizers din Kasi yan. Remember na-imbiyerna si Pia nung may nag-comment sa IG niya dahil daw nagmodel ng nag-model Lang daw then ang rebutt ni Pia eh mas gusto niya tahimik na magtrabaho at makapukaw ng atensyon Yung naka swimsuit na pic niya ang front niya.

    Just like Pia, hawak sa leeg ni Esther ang titlist Kaya Kung ano idikta Yung and masusunod otherwise baka masampal sila ng breach of contract. That no wonder mas active ngayon si Pia sa advocacy niya. Hindi lang kinukwestyon ng mga fans ang MU because MU is like the gold standard of beauty pageant free from flaws.

    Sa point of view ng titlist, di hamak na maganda pang maging titlist ng MI or ME Kasi di suffocating Yung job description and at the same time there is flexibility “if” the titlist is proactive.

    Pero sa point of view ng fans MU ang ultimate goal dahil sensitize na Yung utak natin na it’s a global brand.

    I concur with Norman’s opinion.

    • May template itinerary na Rin din Kasi Ang MU winner: derecho sa NYFW to model for SheriHill post pageant, then Puteri Indonesia then Miss USA then Miss Teen USA then isang presence sa chosen activity nung winner (for Pia, isang talk sa isang HIV patient and for Iris is smile train dahil dentist siya). Everything in between are fillers which are mostly coronation.

      Si Kylie balance ang activities between endorsement and advocacy:

      Mental education sa Singapore
      Speaker at Phil Mental Assoc
      Speaker at WHO
      Presence say signing ng mental health bill
      Etc.

      In between,

      Modelling for Bayo, Miss Paris, Francis Libiran, inauguration of resort, Phil Independence day, at Kung ano-ano pang brands.

      She was empowered by MI to do what she wants kaya ayan “Lagare Queen” sa dami ng activities.

  6. MUKHANG HNDI PINALAPS NG MUDANGNI IRIS SA MAMAHALING RESTAURANT AND BLOGGER KAYA HAYAN…….GANYAN NA LANG KUNG MAKAWRITE UP.

    SO SORRY IRIS HINDI KA FEEL NG BLOGGER. KUNG SANA PINALAPS NG MUDANG MO YONG BLOGGER SA ILALIM NG EIFFEL TOWER DI SANA SUPER POSITIVE TO THE MAX ANG MGA WRITE MO AT PAULIT ULIT.

    PARANG SI BIANCA DEBIGOTE, MATAPOS PAKAININ SA MAMAHALING RESTAURANT NG KANYANG MUDANG E SUPER PREDICT NA ANG BLOGGER NA MAY I WINONA RYDER DAW SI BIANCA SA MI AT BACK TO BACK VICTORY KUNO ANG MANGYAYARI, FULL OF CONVICTION NYANG SINABI YAN HA! KESYO SUPER BYOTIFOL DAW ANG BIANCA DEBIGOTE AT ME ADVOCACY PA DAW NA KUNG ANO ANONG KAEK EKAN NA PATI NGO E GINAMIT PA TALAGA. COME PAGENT NIGHT NG MISS INTERNATIONAL, WALANG BIANCA DIBIGOTENG TINAWAG SA TOP 15, ENDING TAGA PALAKPAK NA LANG SYA AT WALANG BINIGAY SA BANSA KUNDI KAHIHIYAN AT SYA LANG ANG BUKOD TANGING WALANG PLACEMENT THAT YEAR! NA KESYO KASALANAN DAW NG GOWN, SUSME PATI WALANG BUHAY NA TELA E SINISI PA!

  7. With all due respect to the blogger, I detect an unfair insinuation against the current Ms. Universe.

    > I think Iris is doing very well, thank you very much.
    > There is no need to bring down someone just to elevate someone.
    > The reason that we (Filipinos) were all aware of Pia’s activities during her reign was because a LOT of you (bloggers) was writing about it. Which is natural. Love our own.

    I just kinda find the slant of this post not so very nice.

    World Peace.

  8. It is not for us to judge one reign from the other, especially if one of the contenders is our own. There cannot be any objectivity in this exercise. Pia is lucky she came from a beauty-pageant-crazed country which is also the world’s top social media user, let alone the world’s texting capital. Iris came from a country known as the world’s fashion mecca, but unfortunately where interest in beauty pageants is very low, and peoples’ use of social media is not as intense. The comparative metrics of web traffic alone will bear this out. The use of web traffic metrics as basis for comparative evaluation may be unfair. While it is not the Filipinos’ fault to be both pageant and internet freaks, comparisons like this will certainly turn other countries’ chagrin at our pageant fanaticism to outright disdain.

    • Super agree. The post is indirectly saying, Hey, Pia is a better MU than Iris! The narrative implies that IMG has something to prove to the writer SMH

  9. “Pia’s reign is a tough act to follow” what? Please cite examples of significant things she did during her reign.. yes, she was indeed very active in social media (her own thing – even an after sex bed selfie duh) but had those postings and rumblings made an impact? A big NO. Pia was actually the least liked MU winner by their loyal sponsors even Yamamay did not bother to include her in their official brand endorsers. Sorry but let’s be real here.

    • U r a feisty little thing , jeremi. Don’t worry . Pia will shower you with her post MU achievements in no time

    • So, is Iris a Yamamay endorser now? What if the MUO and Yamamay’s directions are different, especially now that Miss Teen USA no longer has a swimsuit competition?

      So show me a picture of Iris as a Yamamay endorser, and i’ll believe your sensationalized claim

      BECAUSE THIS PROVES YOU WRONG: https://www.missuniverse.com/post/2041

      • Jeremi, apts in NYC are not big . I think Pia and her then BF were just having some private time ( not sex) in her room .
        Now if they did more than that, I cannot really blame Pia. Can u resist that guy’s charm ,Jeremi? Tse, hihihi

      • Typical. Wala nang ibang matira kaya balik sa datihang tactics. Puro speculation. Wala namang substance.

        Buti na lang being right is not about being the loudest.

  10. Primarily, it’s the job of the MUO to provide jobs/activities, etc to the reigning beauty queen.
    Pia is already in the Philippines entertainment industry b4 she became a Miss Universe and that makes her more in demand in the showbiz and political business here and abroad.😋
    Lolo Chavit did a lot of help to MUO and Madam Julia Morley is dying to get her share like what MUO got in the Philippines😄
    Miss World 2019 in the Philippines if we want another crown.
    Queen Catriona is MW2016 if Madam Cory assured Madam Julia a Philippines venue for MW2018/19. 😗cherette
    Beauty Pageant is Politics and Politics is Beauty Pageant..period 🙄
    I think Miss World Philippines Organization should talk and ask help with the people connected with the Philippines drug cartel to donate US$20M. If some senators was able to collect financial help from druglords why not to MWP org. ..cherette 😄😊🤗
    Di ba ang drama ngayon, ang Mali ay ginagawang tama basta ibagsak ang DU30 govt para tuloy ang druga at corruption sa ikakaunlad ng mga ganid at buwaya sa gobyerno at tuloy ang paghihirap ng mga mamamayang pilipino 😄hihihi.

  11. TBH mas na.feel ko pa ang impact niya kesa kay Queen P. Iris had a lot of international travels compared to Pia and if basis niyo is yung advocacy ni Pia with HIV/AIDS Iris also did something with that advocacy and of course with Smile Train of which Iris hold close to her heart. Nababias lang talaga tayo minsan kasi kababayan natin si Pia but truth be told I didn’t see anything special with Pia’s reign. That sweet-talk-ass-kissing interviews Paula did about Pia’s reign before MU ’16 finals were just so she could please the Pinoy pageant fans. Regardless I adore both queens.

    • Marami din namang travel si Pia, medyo nakulangan nga lang dahil ibang latin countries may pagka galit dahil sa fiasco. Pero kung naging fully puti lang sya at hindi philippine sash ang dala im sure marami din syang offers. don naman sa yamamay, eh known naman talaga na iyon ang hindi niya forte ang swimzut, pero magaling talaga syang magdala at isali mo pa pasarela..

    • Di napost pala ang comment ko.

      Bakla, baka ikaw ang biased.

      Pia (as MU) went to 11 countries. Iris, to 7, 8 if we include the Philippines, so far. So mas marami pa ring international travels ni Iris? Let’s just talk facts here.

      I don’t follow Iris, so I can’t say anything about her reign. I did follow Pia’s, however. So if you think she had a less impactful reign, I wholeheartedly disagree. But since you’re entitled to your opinion, and me mine, let’s just agree to disagree.

      • Yeah she had a lot of travels going to that Doctor’s apartment 😂✌️. Anong 11 countries pinagsasabi mo diyan? Paki enumerate nga?

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